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		<title>By: Yiyo</title>
		<link>http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator>Yiyo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Mar 2013 14:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Down? Wow you must be an excelent person...]]></description>
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		<title>By: Bogoss</title>
		<link>http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/#comment-643</link>
		<dc:creator>Bogoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 10:01:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry for the mistyping errors. Hope u understand, no matter the word mistake. Thanks.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the mistyping errors. Hope u understand, no matter the word mistake. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Bogoss</title>
		<link>http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/#comment-642</link>
		<dc:creator>Bogoss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Mar 2013 09:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi every posters,

I read these comments from followers and and criticizers of each distro. The &quot;pros&quot; and &quot;cons&quot; of each brand distro are so strongly but, in fine, the looser is the Linux OS ! Microsoft has then many reasons to show how Linux is less serious system than Windows, and they are right to say !
I&#039;ve been using FreeBSD and Linux (starting with Yggdrasil in october 1992) for 2 decades now. I&#039;ve been using the different vbariants of Linux includinf : RH---&gt;Fedora, Debian---&gt;Ubuntu, Suse---&gt;OpenSuse and finally keepin using Arch since 4 years now and keep going with it.
In the sttrugling field of Linux distros, the end user might feel really lost. Why  all of these &quot;things&quot; showing &quot;Linux&quot; but not compatible at all ? Why OS X, based on FreeBSD, is not fighting against the latter as Manjaro, Chakra, ArchBang, Bridge ...do with Arch?
I came to try all of the mentioned distros. Ok. They all seem good for the beginners and advanced users as weel. But why not work together to make a Linux OS work better against Windows 7 and 8 ?
Arch is, by far, the best and better way for Linux to work for the masses but still hard to make it work out of the box. Manjaro has a very good tools to put nvidia work fine, like their mhwd-nvidia. Why not joining Arch and contibute to improve it rather creating one more distro and fragmenting the Arch one more ?
I understandthat some people leaving Arch community to  buikld their own system but, why ? There are many distros around and some dying ater one, two or more/less than that. Maybe manjaro will survive longer or messer, but at the end, it&#039;s Linux that fails in gaining respectability and trustness. The guys from manjaro team are, no dobt, a very good devs, why do they leave a so promizing system as Arch is, to build a new distro that&#039;ll never reach the masses ? What to say about Gentoo/Sabayon and so on ?
Trying to make my printer working on Manjaro... Leads me to Arch repos to install the drivers...
It&#039;s a joke. Isn&#039;t it ?

Thanks for eading. I know. There couldn&#039;t be any asnwer. So, come back here in... 5 years ?
Good luck for the Manjaro team and hope see you back to the home.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi every posters,</p>
<p>I read these comments from followers and and criticizers of each distro. The &#8220;pros&#8221; and &#8220;cons&#8221; of each brand distro are so strongly but, in fine, the looser is the Linux OS ! Microsoft has then many reasons to show how Linux is less serious system than Windows, and they are right to say !<br />
I&#8217;ve been using FreeBSD and Linux (starting with Yggdrasil in october 1992) for 2 decades now. I&#8217;ve been using the different vbariants of Linux includinf : RH&#8212;&gt;Fedora, Debian&#8212;&gt;Ubuntu, Suse&#8212;&gt;OpenSuse and finally keepin using Arch since 4 years now and keep going with it.<br />
In the sttrugling field of Linux distros, the end user might feel really lost. Why  all of these &#8220;things&#8221; showing &#8220;Linux&#8221; but not compatible at all ? Why OS X, based on FreeBSD, is not fighting against the latter as Manjaro, Chakra, ArchBang, Bridge &#8230;do with Arch?<br />
I came to try all of the mentioned distros. Ok. They all seem good for the beginners and advanced users as weel. But why not work together to make a Linux OS work better against Windows 7 and 8 ?<br />
Arch is, by far, the best and better way for Linux to work for the masses but still hard to make it work out of the box. Manjaro has a very good tools to put nvidia work fine, like their mhwd-nvidia. Why not joining Arch and contibute to improve it rather creating one more distro and fragmenting the Arch one more ?<br />
I understandthat some people leaving Arch community to  buikld their own system but, why ? There are many distros around and some dying ater one, two or more/less than that. Maybe manjaro will survive longer or messer, but at the end, it&#8217;s Linux that fails in gaining respectability and trustness. The guys from manjaro team are, no dobt, a very good devs, why do they leave a so promizing system as Arch is, to build a new distro that&#8217;ll never reach the masses ? What to say about Gentoo/Sabayon and so on ?<br />
Trying to make my printer working on Manjaro&#8230; Leads me to Arch repos to install the drivers&#8230;<br />
It&#8217;s a joke. Isn&#8217;t it ?</p>
<p>Thanks for eading. I know. There couldn&#8217;t be any asnwer. So, come back here in&#8230; 5 years ?<br />
Good luck for the Manjaro team and hope see you back to the home.</p>
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		<title>By: ron</title>
		<link>http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/#comment-641</link>
		<dc:creator>ron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 04:46:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Just look at it this way: Either ARCH or Manjaro...It&#039;s far more secure than windows. Even if someone needs to use Manjaro instead of  ARCH they are still getting way better security. I&#039;m a newbie to linux so I&#039;m glad Manjaro is there...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just look at it this way: Either ARCH or Manjaro&#8230;It&#8217;s far more secure than windows. Even if someone needs to use Manjaro instead of  ARCH they are still getting way better security. I&#8217;m a newbie to linux so I&#8217;m glad Manjaro is there&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
		<link>http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/#comment-640</link>
		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Right...   You do realize a bleeding edge distro is for early adopters.  And I remember that specifically being in [testing] until just before the &quot;production&quot; point release was made, at which point it was clear that only very minor issues were being fixed upstream.

And your comment about the ext4 issue shows that you really have no idea what it was...  and given it affected version 3.4, 3.5 and 3.6 - it was not moved to [core] - it was in [core] for about half a year.   (As it was in Manjaro).

Do your research before responding again...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right&#8230;   You do realize a bleeding edge distro is for early adopters.  And I remember that specifically being in [testing] until just before the &#8220;production&#8221; point release was made, at which point it was clear that only very minor issues were being fixed upstream.</p>
<p>And your comment about the ext4 issue shows that you really have no idea what it was&#8230;  and given it affected version 3.4, 3.5 and 3.6 &#8211; it was not moved to [core] &#8211; it was in [core] for about half a year.   (As it was in Manjaro).</p>
<p>Do your research before responding again&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arch user</title>
		<link>http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 14:12:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[No 
I talk about the day when Libreoffice release a release only for EARLY ADOPTERS (3.2, 3.3 or 3.4, not remmember exactky) and in place to put on [testing] (for Early Adopters) you (ArchLinux) put this directly on [extra]

Another example  was the ext corruption (a securryty problem that as far I know affect reaaly users), In place of wait for the addresing the problem or watch if a patch exist, you push the kernel whit the problem on [core]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No<br />
I talk about the day when Libreoffice release a release only for EARLY ADOPTERS (3.2, 3.3 or 3.4, not remmember exactky) and in place to put on [testing] (for Early Adopters) you (ArchLinux) put this directly on [extra]</p>
<p>Another example  was the ext corruption (a securryty problem that as far I know affect reaaly users), In place of wait for the addresing the problem or watch if a patch exist, you push the kernel whit the problem on [core]</p>
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		<title>By: RuZL</title>
		<link>http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/#comment-638</link>
		<dc:creator>RuZL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Feb 2013 20:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Allan.

I am new to Linux &amp; after initially settling on Mint, I tried my hand at installing Arch on a 2nd laptop &amp; failed. I then installed Manjaro &amp; am loving it. I feel your piece about Manjaro &quot;ignoring security for stability&quot; misses the wider picture, which is that as a young, upcoming distro, it is fulfilling a need for users who want  the benefits of an Arch based system, but in a manner that doesn&#039;t require the same level of technical expertise.

There&#039;s nothing wrong with that. The wonderful array of alternative operating systems draws many away from Windows and will hopefully continue to do so. So what if the user you quoted at the start of your piece ditched Arch after 2 years and is now happy with Manjaro. No doubt there will be disaffected &amp; disappointed users going the other way.

That&#039;s the beauty of choice. 

Long live Linux!

Newbzki.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Allan.</p>
<p>I am new to Linux &amp; after initially settling on Mint, I tried my hand at installing Arch on a 2nd laptop &amp; failed. I then installed Manjaro &amp; am loving it. I feel your piece about Manjaro &#8220;ignoring security for stability&#8221; misses the wider picture, which is that as a young, upcoming distro, it is fulfilling a need for users who want  the benefits of an Arch based system, but in a manner that doesn&#8217;t require the same level of technical expertise.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s nothing wrong with that. The wonderful array of alternative operating systems draws many away from Windows and will hopefully continue to do so. So what if the user you quoted at the start of your piece ditched Arch after 2 years and is now happy with Manjaro. No doubt there will be disaffected &amp; disappointed users going the other way.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s the beauty of choice. </p>
<p>Long live Linux!</p>
<p>Newbzki.</p>
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		<title>By: antaios</title>
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		<dc:creator>antaios</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 22:11:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Funny how this post could be against any distro with late to update policies, but instead being about an arch clone by an arch user. 

A month? Nah. I&#039;ll leave you to your logs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny how this post could be against any distro with late to update policies, but instead being about an arch clone by an arch user. </p>
<p>A month? Nah. I&#8217;ll leave you to your logs.</p>
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		<title>By: Allan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Allan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 03:58:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You mean where libreoffice would not start due to needing a rebuild for an updated icu?   Which all occurred in the [testing] repo?

And as I said, have you actually read at what cost waiting to update comes at?  They do not have the team to even attempt to review the security implications of all [core] package updates, so important update sit and wait.  That is the wrong approach to stability...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You mean where libreoffice would not start due to needing a rebuild for an updated icu?   Which all occurred in the [testing] repo?</p>
<p>And as I said, have you actually read at what cost waiting to update comes at?  They do not have the team to even attempt to review the security implications of all [core] package updates, so important update sit and wait.  That is the wrong approach to stability&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Arch user</title>
		<link>http://allanmcrae.com/2013/01/manjaro-linux-ignoring-security-for-stability/#comment-635</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch user</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Feb 2013 03:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[are delayed because they test the package and not pull a early version or non tested version
oryou remmember what happend whit libreoffice months ago??]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>are delayed because they test the package and not pull a early version or non tested version<br />
oryou remmember what happend whit libreoffice months ago??</p>
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