Unmoderated Mailing List For Arch Discussion

It seems I have gained a “fan” or two over the last week. But this guy is my current favourite. Shutting down the arch-general mailing list for a day resulted in me getting the following email:

Subject: wrong move
Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2012 15:16:03 +0100
From: P .NIKOLIC <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com>
To: Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org>

Very bad move .

You will just inflame it for later if you have not learnt that yet what
are you doing running a mail list .. ?..

Pete .

Thanks Pete. Lets see who gets angry at me the most…

Subject: List admin
Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 10:42:44 +0100
From: P .NIKOLIC <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com>
To: arch-general-owner@archlinux.org

I wish to know who is the main arch-general@archlinux.org admin

i wish to start a vote to remove Allan McRae
or at least demote him . He appears to be prone to panic attacks and
ill judged moves ie shutting the list down ..

Before anyone says anything else i run 4 lists myself , all motor sport
related .

The other point is if certain people would just answer the question
instead of going off on some tangent it would help lessen the wars

You may not agree that is not my problem i see what i see this list
needs someone that does NOT panic


It would be a fair assumption that if I have the ability to shut down an email list, then I might have administrator access… A lack of reply and this email arrives:

Subject: Mail owner
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 08:26:01 +0100
From: P .NIKOLIC <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com>
To: arch-general-owner@archlinux.org

I am once again calling for the removal of Allan McRae as an
unsuitable person to be in control of a mailing list ,

He is Childish despotic offensive officious obnoxious and is
stomping around like some little Hitler .

He has go to GO


The use of “despotic” was particular non-inventive given that was already used on the arch-general mailing list earlier that day. So the Godwinism was the best that could be done.

I subtly mentioned these emails in a reply to arch-general in order to let him know that I have seen them. That resulted in:

Subject: Un warrented transference of mails to list
Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2012 19:07:26 +0100
From: P .NIKOLIC <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com>
To: Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org>

Excuse me .

I kept OFF the list for a reason , you are in a flat out panic spin
this shows a mile off by your actions .

If you are unwilling to run the list and let it run then i suggest
you retire and let someone else do the job .

You are getting as bad if not worse than some of the bird brains on
the suse lists that is the reason a good number of new users have
appeared here Like me they were getting sick of the blatant junk from
the list owners .

This mail was sent OFF list for a reason get with it .

Oh and i still say RETIRE if you cant handle it ..


If you did not want emails to be public, perhaps you should not have sent them to an email address that you had no idea who the recipient was. Or, even better, just do not send them at all. I actually made an exception to not answering any of these emails and replied with that friendly piece of advise.

But that was not the end of it…

Subject: tosser
Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2012 08:53:15 +0100
From: P .NIKOLIC <p.nikolic1@btinternet.com>
To: Allan McRae <allan@archlinux.org>


you are by far the biggest silly little boy i have ever had the
misfortune to stumble on.

How the Arch Linux community ever managed to get a twat like you as
the mailing list owner i will never know but hey there will soon be a
new mailing list .

Ban my aunt fanny word of warning WATCH your list you
think you have stopped me THINK AGAIN 🙂 … Oh and IP filtering
will get you nowhere at all

have fun

Pete .

I feel sad for his inability to form good insults. Using “biggest” and “little” together shows a poor grasp of the English language. This would be fine for non-native speakers, but from his email address I conclude that he is in the UK and given there is a person who dislikes immigrants with the same name on Google+ (who has me in a circle…), I will assume he is a native English speaker too.

Which finally gets me to the point of this post. It appears Pete will soon be creating a mailing list where people can rant about Arch Linux and the direction it is moving all they want with no fear of being censored. Thanks Pete!

15 thoughts on “Unmoderated Mailing List For Arch Discussion

  1. You’ve been handling the mailing list very well Allan. Some discussion is good, but everyone is agreed that it’s got out of hand, and I think your decisive action has been perfectly sensible so far. Don’t give up; the trouble-makers will eventually get tired of this.

  2. Thanks for trying to get the list under control, I’ve been getting quite sick of these little children spamming it up with useless flamebait.

  3. I’ve been filtering Pete out for some time, he’s the only person I’ve blocked so far. Now I can have a second coffee w/o the fear of having my blood pressure get out of control.

    I will happily adjust to a more strict set of rules for posting – whether for the forums or the ML.

  4. You silly little big small medium round straight narrow wide guy! You have been so amazingly entertaining of late. Thanks for keeping me laughing.

  5. Keep up the good work. It’s unfortunate you have to start moderating the mailinglist though.

  6. It’s true, shutting down a mailing list is equivalent to genocide. I know because I run a mailing list on motor sports.

  7. You banned his Aunt Fanny??? Great . . . Who will post cookie recipes to the list now?

  8. If you need help moderating off hours or something I would be willing to take a shift, or handle some of the light work. most posts jut need to be looked at and passed through. This will become more true after full moderation for a few weeks. I’d love to help if it helps get the list’s back on track. . .

  9. Side note: isn’t it rather ironic for an Englishman with a Serbian last name to be hating immigrants? 😀

  10. I think Pete just panicked… Serbia is near Leeds – I just checked on an immigrants Apple maps app.